App 2 - Logs GMT/BST log date confusion

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Malcolm_(User)
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Hi,
The script I have written to analyse the downloaded logs bombed out, whereas it had not before (I download the logs a month at a time)

After investigation I found that the DATE TIME in the logs changes as follws:
2024-03-31 00:55:34 GMT+0000
2024-03-31 02:00:34 BST+0100

My understanding is this...

Now we are one hour ahead of GMT
BST indicates that we are operating in British Summer Time… this year we pt the clocks forward 1 hour, so BST indicates we are one hour ahead

So to me BST+0100 indicates we are two hours ahead, as BST iss one hour, and +0100 means we are one hour ahead

Have you come across this before…

I need to know how I take account of it

Effectively my calculation is trying to work out the time interval; between the two times


Larger time – smaller time = Interval
2024-03-31 02:00:34 BST+0100 - 2024-03-31 00:55:34 GMT+0000 = -55mins to me which is why the script is going wrong

If it were
2024-03-31 02:00:34 GMT+0100 - 2024-03-31 00:55:34 GMT+0000 = +5mins which would be right

Or of it were
2024-03-31 02:00:34 BST+0000 - 2024-03-31 00:55:34 GMT+0000 = +5mins which would be right

So I think the Fox app is incorrect, it should be showing :
Either BST+0000, with the time it is currently showing
or
GMT+0000 with the current hour being shown -1

Effectively FOX have doubled the Britich Summer Time change

Everyone agree?
Or have I got it wrong somehow?
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reef
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This caught me out on Sunday as I had my inverter set to charge the batteries at the cheap rate from 4am until 5am. I picked this time so it was away from the clock change but for some reason it charged from 5am until 6am instead, possibly due to the reason you highlight.

Everything was normal the next day though.
Dave Foster
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The actual date times in the cloud are stored in UTC standard and then converted into your timezone, so it looks like what it is doing is it is telling you that the first is in 'GMT' timezone which is UTC time +00:00 , the second time appears to have been adjusted to be in the timezone BST which is UTC time +01:00.

It's a strange way of doing it, i've never really thought of BST as being a timezone but it makes sense that it is GMT in summer time.

For data consistency you would have to convert back to UTC to store them, and then convert back to local timezone to display them - but I think the net result would be the same as using their conversion which gives you the actual time in your timezone.
Malcolm_(User)
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Thanks Guys

I think you have confirmed that it is not me

It seems that Fox have converted to a log time, by doubling the Summer Time change

So whereas the two logs should be 5 minutes apart, the following indicates -55mins
2024-03-31 00:55:34 GMT+0000
2024-03-31 02:00:34 BST+0100

Maybe in my script I will edit the +0100 always back to +0000, before parsing it. Then just the BST part should be taken into account
Shame as I was trying to create a generic analysis script, and this makes it Fox specific

I wonder if Fox employees ever tread these posts?
I will send the issue back in the App feedback form

Thanks
Malcolm
16 x 420 Watt Panels (REC420AA Pure-R). 8 East, and 8 West facing
1 x H1-6.0 (6kW Inverter)
1 x ECS2900-H4 (11.52 kWh Total Battery Storage)
Malcolm_(User)
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Hi all

It seems that Fox have changed the app since last month

Previously…
2024-06-01 00:02:09 BST+0100
Now…
2024-06-01 00:02

However this is for the same Date Time
Does anybody know if they are now showing GMT correctly for the whole year from now on

I must admit I had forgotten my previous post above... and finished my script ages ago.
So I assume that I now have to change it again

Anyone know for sure???

Thanks
Malcolm
16 x 420 Watt Panels (REC420AA Pure-R). 8 East, and 8 West facing
1 x H1-6.0 (6kW Inverter)
1 x ECS2900-H4 (11.52 kWh Total Battery Storage)
Dave Foster
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Malcolm_(User) wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:03 pm Hi all

It seems that Fox have changed the app since last month

Previously…
2024-06-01 00:02:09 BST+0100
Now…
2024-06-01 00:02

However this is for the same Date Time
Does anybody know if they are now showing GMT correctly for the whole year from now on

I must admit I had forgotten my previous post above... and finished my script ages ago.
So I assume that I now have to change it again

Anyone know for sure???

Thanks
Malcolm
I don't use it much but there was a change a couple of weeks back that broke the download so it's probable they did something then to correct it - I can confirm when I look at the .csv's on my system I see exactly what you are seeing i.e. Now… 2024-06-01 00:02

Unfortunately this being Fox, it's likely only the developers will know for sure and as much as we ask for release notes they don't issue them - that said I would recommend checking the download on the 27th October to see if it has auto-adjusted to DST
Malcolm_(User)
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Thanks David

I wish I would get notified of responses on the forum (apologies for my late thanks)

Cheers
Malcolm
16 x 420 Watt Panels (REC420AA Pure-R). 8 East, and 8 West facing
1 x H1-6.0 (6kW Inverter)
1 x ECS2900-H4 (11.52 kWh Total Battery Storage)
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