Fox App 2.2.0 Quick Settings Question

[MaterialBarracuda48]

I had edited my last post, but you beat me to it with your answer.

Whoosh!

Surely a Forced charge would use more power quickly? I don't want to risk overloading the circuit to the garage (where the batteries are), as there is another piece of equipment that uses off peak power as well.

Technically speaking, you have been doing this since 2024 (or whenever you set the overnight charge) so the power would be the same, around 22 Amps (5000 Watt Inverter)

As we have an export tariff, will the Forced discharge earn us money?

Hell to the yeah, not a lot, but it sure will for you. Some people actually do this daily, they charge to full and dump to actively earn money.

[Northspoon]

So a Forced Discharge just before the off peak rate starts, every night, or just now and again?

[MaterialBarracuda48]

So a Forced Discharge just before the off peak rate starts, every night, or just now and again?

It really comes down to personal choices.
At least, discharge it monthly to keep a better calibration on the individual cells, and help the BMS learn the end points.


You can program it every night, and then it should work as intended. Only consideration is your battery holds the previous "cheaper" rate power, and once it is flat, you will be using the expensive grid power until the cheap rate starts.

Hope that makes sense?


In more detail, let's say you have 1kWh of power left in the battery, you discharge this and get 15p for the export.
Now you have a flat battery, you might draw in 0.33kWh of power at 30p for each kWh, so it cost you 10p as you had no choice. On balance you made 5p, and if you factor in cost of battery, maybe a big fat 0p.

Of course if there is say 3kWh of power left in the battery, you then make 45p and spent 10p.


So back to the start, comes down to personal choices... for me I don't dump the power. This is also because my EV Charger is not wired in so that it charges the car when I do a Force Discharge! I only dump the battery when the EV is not connected and it's been around a month.

[Northspoon]

Thank you very much, my old brain understands it all better now!

[MaterialBarracuda48]

Thank you very much, my old brain understands it all better now!

You are most welcome, I hope it works as intended once you set it up.

[WyndStryke]

Import has no limit from what I see for you, apart from the main supply fuse, so either 100A x 230V = 23000W, or 63A x 230V = 14490W

Interestingly I tried this the other day with older firmware (KH7 Manager 1.37), and it failed with an error message, but after updating the firmware today I was able to set the import limit to 23kW (to match my main fuse, no EV).

[MaterialBarracuda48]

Import has no limit from what I see for you, apart from the main supply fuse, so either 100A x 230V = 23000W, or 63A x 230V = 14490W

Interestingly I tried this the other day with older firmware (KH7 Manager 1.37), and it failed with an error message, but after updating the firmware today I was able to set the import limit to 23kW (to match my main fuse, no EV).

I guess they must have added in the corrected ranges that can be input. Sadly the FW notes are lacking for the older versions, and maybe even the current ones do not state this?


Off topic:
Does your HA report correct 1.02 slave now if you have done a HA reboot?

[WyndStryke]

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Does your HA report correct 1.02 slave now if you have done a HA reboot?

I'll check the next time I reboot - I try to minimise the number of reboots because my Riemann integrals lose data when I do. So generally wait until there is a HA update.

[MaterialBarracuda48]

I'll check the next time I reboot - I try to minimise the number of reboots because my Riemann integrals lose data when I do. So generally wait until there is a HA update.

I loaded one today, 17.1 I think, cannot blame you on avoiding reboots if it causes data loss (logs)