Using battery while exporting Solar

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TiLaSoul
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Hey,

I can't believe I'm the only person wanting to do this but I either don't know the right language or it's maybe technically not possible?

I want my inverter to use the battery to power the house (only .30-.45kW average load) and allow the entirety of the solar output to be fed back to the grid. Currently, if the solar array is generating 5kW, the inverter will power the house (e.g .40kW) and send the rest (4.6kW) to the grid whilst my battery sits at 98% because the sun hits our panels at 5.30am.
It seems like a waste and, over the last month, my battery hasn't discharged below 65% in the evening because we're left with so much surplus whilst I'm losing export value.

Am I missing something?
Dave Foster
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You can’t use the battery to run the house whilst you are generating solar, house load is always prioritised first.

What you can do is to set the work mode to feed-in first which changes the priority to house load, export, (battery only if export limit exceeded) - if you set a schedule to change the work mode at (say between 10am and 7pm) to feed in first then the battery would get a bit of charge to start, then after that all the solar (less house load) will go to export.
TiLaSoul
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Dave Foster wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:05 pm What you can do is to set the work mode to feed-in first which changes the priority to house load, export, (battery only if export limit exceeded) - if you set a schedule to change the work mode at (say between 10am and 7pm) to feed in first then the battery would get a bit of charge to start, then after that all the solar (less house load) will go to export.
Thanks. I already have the work mode set to feed-in 100% of the time. Just a shame that I have 10kWh sitting there doing nothing whilst I'm unable to utilise it. Could totally understand if it was pulling a load larger than the rated output but we very rarely if ever are during the non off-peak hours.

Would it make sense maybe to schedule a forced discharge towards the end of the evening to at least generate more return on stored energy? I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go so 7.5p import (11.30pm-5.30am) and 15p export 24/7.
Dave Foster
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TiLaSoul wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:18 pm Would it make sense maybe to schedule a forced discharge towards the end of the evening to at least generate more return on stored energy? I'm on Octopus Intelligent Go so 7.5p import (11.30pm-5.30am) and 15p export 24/7.
Yep agree, it’s the age old problem of having batteries in summer when they spend a lot of time full, compared to winter when they spend most of their time empty.

At 15p export it’s probably not worth exporting the battery (a rough rule of thumb is the battery costs approx 8p/kWh to purchase and install) so buying at 7.5p and with 10% losses would actually be costing you (nett) 1.5p.

But the other way of looking at it, is your batteries are bought and paid for and so everything you get over 7.5p is a bonus, only you can make that call :)

I know quite a few people that export batteries with the Flux tariff between 4 & 7pm, some actually switch from Go to Flux in summer, and then back again in winter - like you i’m on IOG and don’t (normally) dump my batteries.
TiLaSoul
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Thanks. I'll try an evening forced discharge to see what difference it makes.
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